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Auteur:  Neo [ Sam 15 Nov 2014 20:17 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

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The check sum for my "Install_Pack_BTBSpain_2014.exe" is the same you gave... I also downloaded Subida a la Manzana as a separate track and launched it from "BTB tracks test" list (not from the BTB spain pack) and result was the same - black screen :GGG

Auteur:  porridge [ Sam 15 Nov 2014 21:59 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Interesting.

I don't know how relevant this is when it comes to your computer specs but be that as it may, this SS is one of the heaviest RBR stages ever released - BTB or otherwise. If not the heaviest. Well ok, top 5, at least. :) There are some threads about black screen (perhaps "ecran noir" in French) and one solution I noticed was dropping the render quality. Obviously you did already go down on resolution without a result and while it may not be the solution for you, it could make sense to do some further testing with either resolution or quality settings. Here is the mentioned thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18514&hilit=btb+noir&start=60 . Use search for more similar threads, I just glanced through some of them.

You could try Depannage (the troubleshooting tool) to give yourself some ideas. (In all likelihood, that's the best you can get: ideas.)

Maybe you should check your FixUp.ini settings before the testing process and make sure you have the same settings that I have right now on my RSRBR installation - they shouldn't really make any difference but who knows?:



It's certainly no picnic so good luck. Again.

Auteur:  obelix [ Sam 15 Nov 2014 22:36 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Sam 15 Nov 2014 19:17 ici  Neo a écrit:
The check sum for my "Install_Pack_BTBSpain_2014.exe" is the same you gave... I also downloaded Subida a la Manzana as a separate track and launched it from "BTB tracks test" list (not from the BTB spain pack) and result was the same - black screen :GGG


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For general help (Troubleshooter utility) create a topic on the right part of the forum please
"Support logiciel/Software support"

Auteur:  Neo [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 00:21 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

As for the troubleshooter it shows that everything is ok.
I've tried each resolution and shifted to the lowest graphic details level but, sadly, the problem is still there.
My only suggestion, especially taking into view that this is one of the heaviest tracks for RBR, is that my PC is to weak for this stage.

My PC specs:
DualCore AMD Athlon II X2 250, 2950 MHz
RAM 6 Gb (3.25 Gb available) - 3328 Мb  (DDR3-1600 DDR3 SDRAM)
ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series  (512 Мb)
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
DirectX 11.0

Auteur:  obelix [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 00:57 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Citation:
that this is one of the heaviest tracks for RBR,

NO

Citation:
As for the troubleshooter it shows that everything is ok.

:?:  :?:  :GGG

Auteur:  Neo [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 12:43 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Citation:
Version de l'utilitaire de dйpannage : 7.19.0
Version de l'update installйe : 06
Version de l'update prise en charge par cet utilitaire : 06
________________________________________________________________________________
Configuration de l'utilisateur :
Processeur : AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 250 Processor - Nb de core : 2
RAM : 3,407 Go dont 2,331 Go de libres
Carte graphique : ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
Nombre d'йcran(s) : 1
Rйsolution йcran : 1024 x 768
Rйsolution de jeu : 1024 x 768
Espace libre sur le lecteur oщ se trouve RBR/RSRBR : 31,47 Go / 134,04 Go au total
Systиme d'exploitation : Windows 7 Ultimate 32bits
Richard Burns Rally est installй dans : D:\Games\Richard Burns Rally\
Type de session en cours : Administrateur
Statut de ChronoManager : Non activй
Statut de l'option X-Sim : Non activй
Sons 2010 : Non installйs
Anti-virus : Avast!
Horloge Windows : Temps Internet dйsactivй (service)
Nombre de processus lancйs : 51
________________________________________________________________________________
Contenu du fichier RichardBurnsRally.ini :

[NGP]
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel = 100
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car0 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car1 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car2 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car3 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car4 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car5 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car6 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityGravel_Car7 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow = 100
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car0 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car1 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car2 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car3 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car4 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car5 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car6 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivitySnow_Car7 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac = 100
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car0 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car1 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car2 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car3 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car4 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car5 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car6 = 0
ForceFeedbackSensitivityTarmac_Car7 = 0
showRevision = 1

[Settings]
ConstantForceMultiplier = -60
Depth = 32
ForceFeedback = true
Fullscreen = true
MinDepthBits = 24
MinStencilBits = 8
ParticleQuality = high
RenderCarShadow = true
RenderQuality = high
RunIntro = false
RunStartup = false
Sound = true
UseCubicEnvironmentMaps = true
UseEAX = false
UseSoftwareAudio = false
UseTripleScreenBuffers = true
WaitRetrace = true
XRes = 1024
YRes = 768

________________________________________________________________________________
Liste des plugins installйs :
- Equalizer ( eq_mix.dll )
- FixUp ( FixUp.dll )
- PaceNote ( PaceNote.dll )
- Plugin de test RBR ( RBRTestPlugin.dll )
- >>> Plugin inconnu : TrainingDay.dll <<<
- Correctif ZModeler ( Z.dll )
- BobsTrackBuilder ( ZZZrbr_rx.dll )
________________________________________________________________________________
Aucun fichier ou dossier nйcessaire au bon fonctionnement de RSRBR n'est manquant.
________________________________________________________________________________
*** Rapport gйnйrй le воскресенье 16.11.2014  а  12:40:39 ***

Auteur:  porridge [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 15:38 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Ok, your specs are more than enough (on paper at least) to get this stage running, albeit badly (that's my view because while it may not be a scientifically proven fact, I've got no reason to back down on my statement on the relative heaviness). Of course, "HD 3600 series" isn't very accurately put by AMD these days but even at the very worst, I'd imagine it was somewhere around the level of Intel HD Graphics 4000. So no problems there. I did copy your RichardBurnsRally.ini settings and run tests but as I expected, this is one of those problems that's near impossible to replicate by anyone else. It is what it is, I'm afraid. (Played with my Avast! settings a bit too but no difference there.)

Are you sure that the problem isn't currently there with the other stages? Only with this one?

Well, maybe Obelix can come up with the killer solution because he knows everything. He always does.

You know, Neo, this won't console you but I've tested approximately 489 BTB stages in my time and there was this one (1!) stage I could not access with my previous computer. For the life of me, I cannot remember for sure which one was it, maybe it was GB Sprint 0.95 or maybe not. I have even driven that one later on but anyway, the point is that at the time it was most peculiar and perplexing. Everyone else in a small circle of "RBR aficianados" had the stage running OK, and as the packs were identical for all, it did bother me for some time. But, no single stage is really worth all the bother, with PCs there's an endless amount of variables that sometimes make it hard to put a finger on the problem.

Perhaps you could magically fix it by updating graphics card drivers or some other drivers. Or maybe sometime in the future, after re-installing Windows you'll find the stage works as if there never was anything wrong. But never get your hopes up. :)

Auteur:  obelix [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 15:55 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Citation:
Well, maybe Obelix can come up with the killer solution because he knows everything. He always does.


[-X  :D

Try windowed mode

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Replace ....true by false

Auteur:  Neo [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 17:14 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

Well, guys, the window mode doesn't help either and I have this problem only with this single stage, although I've tested around 400 btb tracks in RBR and none of them had such an issue. With any solution not working for me the problem looks very misterious. Anyway, thank you mates for your help, very nice to have such a great support from you o|:)

Auteur:  obelix [ Dim 16 Nov 2014 17:54 ]
Sujet du message:  Re: [BTB Spain] Subida a la Manzana (By SISCO)

So, I do not know how to love more, sorry. Not so bad if only one special BTB does not work.
In a few weeks with the installation  RSRBR2015,may be resolved.

o|:)

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