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 [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD 
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Message Re: [WIP] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD *Beta version released*
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Rear-wheel-drive Physics are now ready to Escort Cosworth, Escort Mk1, Sierra and BMW M3!!!  :D/ I am thinking to release a pack wich includes all of those cars. Few days and I will release it!


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Message Re: [WIP] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD *Beta version released*
The pack is released: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XBHGXOSE

Includes rear-wheel-drive cars: Escort Cosworth, Escort Mk1 and BMW M3 e30. New physics to every car and old models. Includes also Sierra's rwd physics but I can not share the model because it has not been officially released. But when it will be, these physics work with it.


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Message Re: [WIP] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD *Final version released*
Fichier toujours indisponible sur mégaupload.

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Message Re: [WIP] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD *Final version released*
toto090369 a écrit:
Fichier toujours indisponible sur mégaupload.


Should work now, I just tested it.


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Message Re: [WIP] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD *Final version released*
Yes I could download it yesterday night. But sometimes on megaupload it's unavailable for a few moments.

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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
Seem's like moderator's have moved this topic from WIP to RELEASED. That's ok but I have to remind that there is still few things to fix on model. Also I have now even better physics (100% ready) but I will not release them before I have model in 100% order.


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
I moved it because the physics are Ok. It's true that the model needs to be corrected a bit. I'll try to contact Eddy3spain to see if he allows someone to modify the escort model (it's based on the group A model, or group N ?).

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Flat-twin a écrit:
I moved it because the physics are Ok. It's true that the model needs to be corrected a bit. I'll try to contact Eddy3spain to see if he allows someone to modify the escort model (it's based on the group A model, or group N ?).


Model is GrN's. I have allready asked from eddy, I think it was in 2008. He may remember's or not but he allowed me to do little modifications. (like spoiler and stuff what I asked about and was thinking to do but I think we can forget those modifications if there isn't anyone who is interested to do it) The corrections to suspension parts are the most important thing.


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
I contacted him trough guerra's forum but I'm not sure he will answer soon. Anyway, if he authorized you it's great. Do you have the z3d model because without it it will be hard to do.

What are the modifications you want appart from the suspensions ? (if you have good photos I'll be able to tell you if I think I can do it or not).

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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
I seem to have a weird bug with this car. I downloaded the latest package from the first post and installed it as explained in the readme. But in game the car has no skin, it's all white. I can't even see through the windscreen because it's all in white color, the 3d model loads up fine but not the skin on top of it. Only way I could test this was to use the original Grp. N version with these RWD physics.

All other mods seem to work fine but this doesn't for me. :?:


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
Probably an error in the shaders.ini file because the name of the texture folder is wrong i think. it will be corrected because we had authorisation from Eddy to modify the group N escort into a group H (the main modification is the rear wing which I took on the WRC model). So we will have a standalone model for the group H escort :)

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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
You were right! I corrected the Escort_Cosworth_GrN_shaders.ini file and now it works like it should.

These are the correct lines:

[TSDefault]
Cosworth_GrN_external.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external.dds
Cosworth_GrN_parts.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_parts.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic_mud.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic_mud.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_mud.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_mud.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_scrape.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_scrape.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_transparent.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_transparent.dds
Cosworth_GrN_internal.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_internal.dds
Cosworth_GrN_internal_kwindscreen.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_internal_kwindscreen.dds
Cosworth_GrN_internal_scrape.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_internal_scrape.dds
Cosworth_GrN_internal_transparent.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_internal_transparent.dds
Cosworth_GrN_extra_lights.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_extra_lights.dds
Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic_lights_on.dds = cars\ESCORT_COSWORTH_GrH\textures\Cosworth_GrN_external_dynamic_lights_on.dds

It was pointing to the original Grp. N Escort's texture folder.

-- Mon 29 Nov 2010 18:05 --

Now I have had some time to test drive this car. It feels nice, but I can't help but feel it feels a bit too nice... I mean I can tell it's a RWD car but it feels kinda like too easy to drive. On some situations it even feels a bit like a 4WD car, ie when accelerating out of corners with full gas it kinda wants to recover from the slide by itself. The 242 Volvo is much more challenging to drive, which I think should be the opposite thing because it has a long wheelbase, but the short wheelbase Escort still feels very calm and neutral in every situation. It has tons of grip at the front wheels but at the same time it reminds me a bit of understeery touring car.

Don't get me wrong it's a nice mod and I enjoy driving it, but I still feel like the Volvo feels much more natural.

The E30 M3 has a similar nature as well.


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
I think the Escort is less powerfull and torquefull than the volvo, which explains your feeling. I played with it a lot with the keyboard and it was indeed easy. But it feels like there is not much torque at low revs, so for me it feels fine. I don't know how is the real car so i can't compare really.

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It's not the torque, even the Volvo needs high revs to keep it going. I can also feel it when landing a jump at angle, immediately when the car touches ground it stops sliding and goes straight even without opposite lock. The Volvo does the opposite and actually this landing as I call it is easier for me with the Volvo because I have the instinct what makes me automatically put some opposite lock and the landing is smooth, but with the Escort I have to "override" this instinct and keep front wheels straight, otherwise it shoots itself to the left or right ditch depending if I'm applying the opposite lock to left or right. :D

But i have been doing some testing at Chirdonhead and Harwood Forest and I have made some setup changes. I made dampers and springs a lot softer and this gave me a more natural and controllable feeling over the car, especially at the bumpy Harwood. I also tried to make it a bit more oversteery by making the rear much more softer than front (well quite the opposite in the setup screen, since I believe rear and front are reversed with RWD cars in RBR?).


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
Pepe you have good point's here. In fact I have to say the Escort physics that I have released now are not the final one. I have modificated them quite a lot after having feedback from friend's that have much experience with real rally cars. You are right about that escort is easier to drive compared to volvo. But at least it will be more oversteering in final physics and I think not that easy to drive. The biggest difference between volvo and escort is that when you want to go straight volvo doesn't want that and escort wants. Compared to real rally cars wich I have driven I and most of my friends think that volvo is too wild and escort too steady. But when sliding hard, volvo is like driving in a pipe, it feels like it has some anti-overslide system wich I don't feel real. (escort had that in earlier versions but now in newest I have it doesn't) I haven't driven real rally volvo but for example bmw e36 325 wich is about same size and quite steady car to drive (and has less power than volvo), is more easier to spin over in reality than volvo is in rbr.

Suomeksi siis: Volvo lähtee helposti sladiin, eikä halua mennä suoraan, minusta se tekkee tätä liikaaki verrattuna oikeisiin, mutta minusta se ei pyörähä riittävän helposti vrt oikea. Esko taas menee helpommin suoraan mutta pyörähtää sitte helpommin. Mutta jokatapauksessa uskallan väittää että uusin versio eskosta on parempi ja realistisempi ku se mikä nyt on jaossa. Luulen että se silti kokonaisuutena tulee pysymään helpompana ajettavana ku volvo. Mutta elä mittää vielä, lähetän sulle viikonloppuna uudet fysiikat ni saat ite testata. :)

With setups you have done 100% right, I too found that suspension must be much softer especially in rear to have more real feeling. I don't say more but I will send you the escort's new physics in next weekend so you can test them and feel the changes yourself. Also can give feedback, that is the best way to make physics better!

But the car will be ready for 12th of december to include it in RSRBR11. And also will be in Tournament plugin and wherever wanted.

EDIT: To simplify: changes I have did for final version compared to that has been released before: More power and torgue, less grip. Not so nice to drive but more real.


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Message Re: [RELEASED] Ford Escort Cosworth grH RWD
I sent to Phil the previous version in order to have something to test this week (because we have to try installation program and a lot of things).
So if you can have it ready this week end it's great (think about the group A M3 too). But anyway I think there will be an update before the season beginning to correct the different bug that may be found during the public testing.

And I'm so sorry to urge you so much :oops: By the way, this WE you'll have the corrected template for the Escort, so you'll be able to complete the skin and send me the files to put that in the car pack :)

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