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Zakraket
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Inscription: Dim 23 Jan 2011 14:48 Messages: 93 Team: Team Abu Dhabi (Pro WRC Team) Ecurie: Mijnrally.nl N° de pilote: 7561
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I'm having some vague trouble with my tyres on wet conditions lately:
When I test for a rally I start the stages in RSRBR offline mode, setting all variables for each stage and start them one after another. To "simulate" tyrechoice in the rally I start the WrongTyre-tool and set the tyres to the tyre I want to test during a set of stages.
F.e. for a leg of 1 wet, 1 dry and 1 damp stage I set the tyres in WrongTyre to Int. Tarmac, and then start the 3 stages. Then, to test another tyre, I set WrongTyre to Wet Tarmac and start the stages again, to compare the times and handling.
I did so for leg 3 of the MDO East Belgium rally. However, I notices during practise that my times on Joux Plane 2 (dry), New Bobs 2 (damp) and Bisanne 2 (damp) were almost identical to within 1 or 2 seconds. So it seemed that there was no difference between Dry and Int. Tyres, also not in handling of the car. RSCenter displayed f.e.: - JP2 dry, dry tarmac: 5:20 - JP2 dry, int. tarmac: 5:21
On NewBobs2 damp I had <4:40 with both tyres (dry and int), and again comparable handling of the car.
However, when I started the race on int. tarmac, JP2 dry on int. tarmac tyres suddenly was very slippery and I slid of the road in the first corner because of this surprise!!
Could it be that RSRBR in offline mode does not properly react to the WrongTyre-tool? That could explain why I had the same times and handling during practise on f.e. JP2: I was basically driving on dry tarmac both passes. RSCenter (Chronomanager) however did display two different tyres for both passes on JP2. And on NewBobs2 I was basically driving on int. tarmac both passes, while I had dry and int. chosen in WrongTyre.
Perhaps WrongTyre only works when starting the full RBR-game? (RBR.dll)
Or perhaps my installation is not properly working?
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 12:12 |
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fifou
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Inscription: Ven 15 Mai 2009 10:00 Age: 53 Messages: 12369 Localisation: Rodez
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
In official session, you have to take care to the natural usure of your tyres Posté depuis Androïd ![Image](.//images/mobile/Android.png)
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 12:24 |
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Zakraket
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Inscription: Dim 23 Jan 2011 14:48 Messages: 93 Team: Team Abu Dhabi (Pro WRC Team) Ecurie: Mijnrally.nl N° de pilote: 7561
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I don't understand you, what do you mean?
Do you refer to tyrewear? It can't be the cause here, because I started JP2 as the first stage on leg 3 on new tyres. Also, most of the time I check the "damages" checkbox for the stages I test. But again, I started on new tyres, so that can't be it.
Is there a difference between griplevels offline and online?
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 12:34 |
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fifou
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
No, it's the same wear Posté depuis Androïd ![Image](.//images/mobile/Android.png)
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 12:50 |
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Zakraket
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Inscription: Dim 23 Jan 2011 14:48 Messages: 93 Team: Team Abu Dhabi (Pro WRC Team) Ecurie: Mijnrally.nl N° de pilote: 7561
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
Okay, but then please explain what you mean by this:
In official session, you have to take care to the natural usure of your tyres
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 12:57 |
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fifou
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
The tyre wear progress with damage report Posté depuis Androïd ![Image](.//images/mobile/Android.png)
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:18 |
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Zakraket
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
Yes, okay.
But, again, it was the start of leg 3, so on JP2 (the first stage of leg 3) I had new tyres, no damage, no tyrewear, it was very slippery. Nothing compared to offline driving with either dry tarmac or int. tarmac
It's a problem because I cannot trust my offline recce. I need to drive the Spanish rally in bad weather so I would like to know what went wrong.
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:26 |
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fifou
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I dont know, and I dont know if it's the same concerm for others pilots Posté depuis Androïd ![Image](.//images/mobile/Android.png)
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:30 |
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Zakraket
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I understand. But, do you (or maybe your RS-collegues) know if WrongTyre works (or should work) while starting RBR with the [GO]-button in offline mode? I'm thinking about reinstalling RSRBR
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:46 |
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Beu-C
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
Zakraket a écrit: Perhaps WrongTyre only works when starting the full RBR-game? (RBR.dll) It's possible ... I'm not sure but possible. If you are using "GO" button to launch your stages, why did you not use RSCenter to modify your tyres ?
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Pas de support par MP. JE NE TRAVAILLE PAS POUR RALLYESIM QUAND UN MP ARRIVE !!! Le forum est le meilleur endroit pour obtenir de l'aide. Plus de personnes peuvent vous aider et les réponses peuvent aider d'autres pilotes. No support by PM. I'M NOT WORKING FOR RALLYESIM WHEN I RECEIVE A PM !!! Forum is the best place to get help. More poeple can help you and answer can be useful for everybody !
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:50 |
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fifou
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I use championship mode to play alone too, so I dont use wrongtyre.exe Posté depuis Androïd ![Image](.//images/mobile/Android.png)
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 13:59 |
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Zakraket
Apprenti pilote ![Apprenti pilote Apprenti pilote](./images/ranks/1casque.gif)
Inscription: Dim 23 Jan 2011 14:48 Messages: 93 Team: Team Abu Dhabi (Pro WRC Team) Ecurie: Mijnrally.nl N° de pilote: 7561
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
yeah, maybe I should not use WrongTyre anymore.
@Beu-c: I use it because sometimes the auto-tyresetting causes me to start a stage-recce with the wrong tyres if I don't pay enough attention when setting all parameters for testing various stages/conditions. Then I restart the stage with the correct tyres, but then the daytimesetting is reset - and I forget that - so I need to restart again. WrongTyre lets you set a tyre and not worries about switching stages/conditions. If it works...
Switching auto-tyrechoice off is no option for me because it will surely cause me to start legs with the tyres from the previous leg in a race. I always have concentrationproblems during a rally, forgetting to choose the right tyre is always a big risk for me.
Tnx anyway so far.
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 14:06 |
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Beu-C
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![Message Message](./styles/RSRBR_Rouge/imageset/icon_topic_latest.gif) Re: RSRBR: Wrongtyre-tool not working in offline RBR?
I also use "auto tyre choice" and I often have same problem of stage/tyre configuration ... But I don't use "WrongTyre.exe" and I don't have any issues with different grip.
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Pas de support par MP. JE NE TRAVAILLE PAS POUR RALLYESIM QUAND UN MP ARRIVE !!! Le forum est le meilleur endroit pour obtenir de l'aide. Plus de personnes peuvent vous aider et les réponses peuvent aider d'autres pilotes. No support by PM. I'M NOT WORKING FOR RALLYESIM WHEN I RECEIVE A PM !!! Forum is the best place to get help. More poeple can help you and answer can be useful for everybody !
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Lun 29 Oct 2012 15:33 |
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